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Texas state legislature bill to forbid local municipalities from outlawing chickens

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I live in one of the few suburbs of dallas that does not allow chickens (even dallas proper allows a couple of chickens)

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=85R&Bill=SB1620

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 Sec. 251.007.  SIX CHICKENS ALLOWED. (a)  Notwithstanding
  any other law and except as provided by Subsection (b), a political
  subdivision may not impose a governmental requirement that
  prohibits an individual from raising or keeping six or fewer
  chickens in the boundaries of the political subdivision.
         (b)  A municipality may impose reasonable governmental
  requirements on the raising or keeping of poultry in the boundaries
  of the municipality that do not have the effect of prohibiting the
  raising or keeping of six or fewer chickens, including:
               (1)  a limit on the number of chickens an individual may
  raise or keep in excess of six;
               (2)  a prohibition on breeding poultry;
               (3)  a prohibition on raising or keeping roosters; or
               (4)  the minimum distance an individual must maintain
  between a chicken coop and a residential structure.
         (c)  A governmental requirement adopted by a political
  subdivision that violates Subsection (a) is void.

The bill passed the state senate 30-0 and is now going to the house... unfortunately.. i there is a big backlog of bills in the state house of representatives because they want the senate to pass a completely unrelated bill in a specific form (the senate has their own version) and until the senate capitulates the house probably wont be voting on anything the senate gives them.

regardless,  i am encouraged. its better news than no bills existing..

 

 

 

 

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It's good to see progessive legislation around backyard food production.  I hope it gets up.

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Progressive is the wrong word to use in Texas. LOL 

I support the bill. 

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Yeah, I'm with you Cecil...I'm still trying to come to grips with it.  The world is an increasingly queer place.  Texas facilitates the keeping of backyard chickens and Trump pulls the US out of the Paris Climate Accord.

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12 hours ago, GaryD said:

Yeah, I'm with you Cecil...I'm still trying to come to grips with it.  The world is an increasingly queer place.  Texas facilitates the keeping of backyard chickens and Trump pulls the US out of the Paris Climate Accord.

Gary,

However if I heard it right we can't really pull out until 2020, which is time for the next presidential election.  Apparently the pullout is mostly political so the candidate can say he fulfilled a campaign promise?  

Yep I heard it right:

http://ktla.com/2017/06/01/u-s-withdrawal-from-paris-agreement-on-climate-change-wouldnt-be-complete-till-2020/

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Hi Cecil,

I'm hoping that the Trump dilemma resolves itself well before 2020.  I have too many American friends to be comfortable with what he's doing to the US...and (as a resident of Planet Earth) I'm fearful of his impact on the rest of the world, too.

Gary

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On June 3, 2017 at 4:54 PM, GaryD said:

Hi Cecil,

I'm hoping that the Trump dilemma resolves itself well before 2020.  I have too many American friends to be comfortable with what he's doing to the US...and (as a resident of Planet Earth) I'm fearful of his impact on the rest of the world, too.

Gary

You are not alone Gary. I'm hoping the s***t will hit the fan this week with testimony of the former FBI director Comey and NSA director Mike Rodgers. 

That said, as the resident of a state that had Mike Pence as a governor (the present VP and person that would take Trump's place) he's just as incompetent and ruinous, but just in a different way. He was so unpopular in my state he knew if he ran for governor again he would probably not win. That's really bad for a guy whose party controls the state. 

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In my view, the best possible outcome would be for Trump to get ousted and to roll the dice again.  Hopefully, the electorate would (having had the wits scared out of it) settle down to consider the benefits of social democracy....capitalism for the people if you wish.  What the US (and the world) needs is a new economic and social order that is almost diametrically opposed to the one we have currently.  It's time to care for people and the planet.

And with that, it's time to go and fuel up the pigs and make sure the runway is clear.

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The bill passed house committee without amendments... man, i am really starting to get exciting thinking this is going to happen

 

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=85R&Bill=SB1620

 

The only bad news is this bill didnt make the highlight real on the Legislature special session that has been called

http://texasfarmbureau.org/gov-abbott-calls-legislative-special-session/

 

 

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i dont  really know completey i dont really know how state governemnt works.. i know it has to be voted on and passed by the house.. then i think the gov signs it and its passed

 

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Whoo Hoo!....you could be on your way to becoming a chicken wrangler, Brian

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I saw an episode of Dirty Jobs where Mike Rowe was helping with rounding up chickens in the city limits of some Florida town. They were basically strays and the roosters were waking people up at the crack of dawn among other things. Probably not popular with folks that work odd hours. 

Gary if you haven't heard of this series its' where a guy name Mike Rowe goes out and helps do jobs that the average person would not want any part of. It can be quite comical. 

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I just had to click a tab.. Yah, just needs to pass the house then signed by governor.

 

Maybe next year =/

 

 

 

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On 6/12/2017 at 0:51 AM, Cecil said:

I saw an episode of Dirty Jobs where Mike Rowe was helping with rounding up chickens in the city limits of some Florida town. They were basically strays and the roosters were waking people up at the crack of dawn among other things. Probably not popular with folks that work odd hours. 

Gary if you haven't heard of this series its' where a guy name Mike Rowe goes out and helps do jobs that the average person would not want any part of. It can be quite comical. 

Yeah...we have Dirty Jobs over here, too.

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Was in the state of Massachusetts, USA recently on vacation. It's considered a "liberal" state and has lots of "democrats" vs. "republicans." I do know it has no shortage of regulations. That said, i saw free roaming chickens (no roosters) within city limits in a town that was near the lake cottage I was on. And this was a very upscale town with high valve property. 

If Massachusetts can do it maybe Texas can? 

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I am still waiting for 2019 for the texas legislature to reconvene and hopefully finish passing that backyard chicken bill.

 

But thankfully there has been some civil disobedience in my city which has resulted in the issue getting re-addressed by the city council. At first i thought it was going to get dumpstered and railroaded by ignorance (again) [cause, apparently this comes up every 10 years or so] but the lady that is appealing the rule got something around 1000 signature on her petition (the city is about 40k population) so i dont think city council is going to be able sweep it away without reasons this time. 

That's not to say theres has not been a lot of opposition.. I know from my neighborhood social  media groups that a lot of people are STRONGLY against other people having backyard chickens . The against arguments that i  have heard are , in my opinion, not based on facts or real world data.

 

one of the city council people posts recaps of the meetings and this is what his notes said on the issue of backyard chickens


 

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Work Session #1
The first work session of the evening was to hold a discussion about the existing city ordinance that bans chickens within residentially zoned areas of the city. Councilman Dahl had requested that this issue/ordinance be re-examined due to public outreach all of council has received. Several citizens had signed up to speak:
Mrs. Culver spoke and stated that she had already provided an email to the council highlighting her opposition to any changes to the existing ordinance. She pointed out multiple concerns including a concern that it would cause a strain on the city budget and the ACO department in particular. 
Ms. Stone spoke and stated that she favors allowing backyard chickens to be kept and that there are already families in the city who keep chickens with some of those at the city being fully knowledgeable. 
Ms. Lemmons spoke next and stated that she supports allowing backyard chickens. She stated that she used to have them until a complaint was filed about someone nearby who had a rooster. Her hens were discovered and she was required to remove them. She presented an unofficial petition to the council as well as research/information from multiple surrounding cities.
Ms. Patton, head of Wylie’s animal services then spoke and answered questions. She stated that staff would need training to handle chickens and there is no current plan to house them. She had a print-out of CDC information on possible diseases and mentioned salmonella and e-coli as concerns. She also was concerned about increased work-load if animal services had to handle a permitting process. Another stated concern was what would be done to dispose of waste and expired animals if they were allowed. 
Councilman Wallis, who is a veterinarian, then spoke on the issue. He stated that chickens have lower levels of salmonella spreading to humans than reptiles kept as pets. As to waste, he stated that 10 chickens produce the same waste as one 40lb dog. He pointed out that most cities in DFW do allow backyard chickens with appropriate restrictions and that after speaking with nearby cities he had heard of no reason for additional manpower being needed. 
Mayor Hogue commented and asked if horses/livestock were allowed in other parts of the city. Ms. Ollie replied that they were allowed in other zonings. He pointed out that the city shelter has not been designed to handle all of these animals despite them being allowed in city limits. He also pointed out that changing of the city ordinance does not change HOA restrictions. 
All councilmembers suggested continuing the discussion at a meeting once budget is complete in order to allow staff, proponents and opponents to all gather relevant, analytical data to ensure any decisions made are done so with good information and based upon facts.

 

 

 

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