mikkelebbesen

Newbie in aquaponics looking for advice

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Hi folks,

I hope you are willing to share some of your experiences and insights with me. I'm Mikkel, a 27 year old Dane and a total newbie, when it comes to aquaponics. I grew up on a farm and now I'm looking for a way to farm in urban environment, where I currently live. Aquaponics definitely seems to be a very appealing option.

I reach out, because I would like to know a little about the challenges of aquaponics, before jumping right into it. I imagine some of have had your struggles already and have the personal experience to pinpoint, what I should focus on. So to make it easy, I'll only ask one question:

 

What are the three main challenges for you as an aquaponic farmer?

 

I'm looking forward to learning a lot. Every input is much appreaciated

Cheers,

Mikkel

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Hi Mikkel and welcome to the forum.

Search through this forum and there are plenty of threads and posts for you to learn from.

Yes we have many challenges, in fact plenty of challenges as we go along.

I will give you three challenges straight off the bat but it doesn't mean that they are in any priority of importance, nor do they exclude the myriad of other challenges.

  1. Learn the basics of aquaponics
  2. Learn how to design a correct system for you including running with the correct fish for you.
  3. Learn how to cycle your system correctly plus learning how to run/drive your system once cycled.

Hope that "wets" your appetite

Cheers.

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Hi Mikkel

Welcome to APN/HQ

I think the #1 obsticale here, is the regulations regarding the aquaculture side (that is if you plan to harwest/eat/sell the fish).

National/local laws/regulations & the EU waterdirective.

You can partly, get past that, with a ornamental/hobby setup, but then again you have some limitations, regarding species to choose from, and you can't harwest to eat (legaly).

All above differ from country to country, so you have to look in to wich applies in your case.

 

I would say # 2 Water supply & efluent. 

You need to know that you have enoughf, and that it holds the propper quality, and last but not least, that you can hold/releese the effluents in any given situation

 

#3 climate control, indoor/outdoor ? to much heat in the summer. Frost & lack of heat/light in the winter.

IMO you need a proper plan on how to handle or overcome this, before you invest to much, so that you know this is not what makes it or brakes it.

 

cheers

edit to add links:

http://akvaponiskselskab.dk/

http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=27466&sid=373aa3b065da4a21597137f58e501dc4

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On 3/29/2017 at 8:07 PM, bigdaddy said:

Hi Mikkel and welcome to the forum.

Search through this forum and there are plenty of threads and posts for you to learn from.

Yes we have many challenges, in fact plenty of challenges as we go along.

I will give you three challenges straight off the bat but it doesn't mean that they are in any priority of importance, nor do they exclude the myriad of other challenges.

  1. Learn the basics of aquaponics
  2. Learn how to design a correct system for you including running with the correct fish for you.
  3. Learn how to cycle your system correctly plus learning how to run/drive your system once cycled.

Hope that "wets" your appetite

Cheers.

Thank you, bigdaddy, for your input. Now I know a bit more about what to look for in here :). I'm on the brink of getting access to a nearby workshop facility, where I can start my adventure.

In your post, you mention the following challenges:

  1. Learn the basics of aquaponics
  2. Learn how to design a correct system for you including running with the correct fish for you.
  3. Learn how to cycle your system correctly plus learning how to run/drive your system once cycled.

I imagine these challenges come from your personal experience, and the struggles you've had. Since the challenges are all related to learning, I have to ask you: how did you learn? 

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9 hours ago, ande said:

Hi Mikkel

Welcome to APN/HQ

I think the #1 obsticale here, is the regulations regarding the aquaculture side (that is if you plan to harwest/eat/sell the fish).

National/local laws/regulations & the EU waterdirective.

You can partly, get past that, with a ornamental/hobby setup, but then again you have some limitations, regarding species to choose from, and you can't harwest to eat (legaly).

All above differ from country to country, so you have to look in to wich applies in your case.

 

I would say # 2 Water supply & efluent. 

You need to know that you have enoughf, and that it holds the propper quality, and last but not least, that you can hold/releese the effluents in any given situation

 

#3 climate control, indoor/outdoor ? to much heat in the summer. Frost & lack of heat/light in the winter.

IMO you need a proper plan on how to handle or overcome this, before you invest to much, so that you know this is not what makes it or brakes it.

 

cheers

edit to add links:

http://akvaponiskselskab.dk/

http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=27466&sid=373aa3b065da4a21597137f58e501dc4

 

Great input, Ande. And thank you for the links. I actually just stumbled upon http://akvaponiskselskab.dk/ earlier today. I want to go visit some guys in CPH to get some first-hand input.

I would like to involve a few others in my operations, as soon as I find a space. There's a vibrant DIY community in a former slaughterhouse nearby, in which I hope to recruit some "partners in crime". That's also where I hope to set up my system. In your view, what kind of skills should we have in our team combined?

I have to add that I at first want do it as a hobby, but who knows where it goes. Not that many work with aquaponics in Denmark so there might be a market.

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Yes from personal experience. Also others personal experiences they have shared. And other things of course

I mention reading up on this forum because we have plenty of information posted over the years which would be very useful to you, I would think. But...we can not repost everything so using the forums search facility is a good thing to do.

Good luck and don't forget...

Any questions you have, please do not hesitate to ask. There are always people around who are happy to help.

Cheers

 

 

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12 hours ago, bigdaddy said:

Yes from personal experience. Also others personal experiences they have shared. And other things of course

I mention reading up on this forum because we have plenty of information posted over the years which would be very useful to you, I would think. But...we can not repost everything so using the forums search facility is a good thing to do.

Good luck and don't forget...

Any questions you have, please do not hesitate to ask. There are always people around who are happy to help.

Cheers

 

 

Cool, thank you. I'll take a look around the forum. Any other forums or online/offline sources, you can recommend me to take a look at? I imagine, there's some place you usually go, if you need some additional knowledge or advice on something.

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Hi Mikkel,

Yes there are plenty of places to go. Depends on how deep you wish to go. Just Google aquaponic forums, pick one or two have a look at them and see if they suit your "style" some you may like, some you may not.

Later on, I would also have a look at some aquarium, RAS aquaculture, Koi and hydroponic places.

Also, you may like to check out iAVs there is also an iAVs facebook site.

When I started off I started here, PAP and BYAP but since then the landscape has changed and now there are some other things you can look at as well. 

Cheers

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On 4/1/2017 at 7:13 AM, bigdaddy said:

Hi Mikkel,

Yes there are plenty of places to go. Depends on how deep you wish to go. Just Google aquaponic forums, pick one or two have a look at them and see if they suit your "style" some you may like, some you may not.

Later on, I would also have a look at some aquarium, RAS aquaculture, Koi and hydroponic places.

Also, you may like to check out iAVs there is also an iAVs facebook site.

When I started off I started here, PAP and BYAP but since then the landscape has changed and now there are some other things you can look at as well. 

Cheers

Great, thanks. A lot of places I didn't know of. I already took a look at BackYard Aquaponics and got a few new insights. PAP, is it Practical Aquaponics? 

 

 

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Hi again Mikkel

Yes you got PAP right

You might find these links useful as well http://www.igff.dk/?id=media http://www.eurofish.dk/index.php/denmark

the eurofish.dk link have numerous dk links at the bottom of the page

This PDF https://www2.viu.ca/sturgeon/docs/AquaponicsLicensingFlowchart_V6.pdf

is a Canadian licencing flowchart, so different to Denmark, in regards to the licensing authorithies, however the principal is the same, so it's a good tool in lack of a simillare Danish flowchart IMO

This thread is a good read on iAVs and it holds links to the iAVs site

To your Q above on team content.

IMO the fish or aquaculture knowledge is high priority, as that is live stock, and the most "valueable" and vounerable part in a AP system

cheers

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Hi again mikkei

 

On 30.3.2017 at 9:37 PM, mikkelebbesen said:

I want to go visit some guys in CPH to get some first-hand input.

Iff you are in CPH it's a short trip to Malmø http://www.hemmaodlat.se/projekt/akvaponisk-csa/

I'd like to go there my selfe next time i visit my brother in CPH

 

cheers

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On 4/5/2017 at 1:14 AM, ande said:

Hi again Mikkel

Yes you got PAP right

You might find these links useful as well http://www.igff.dk/?id=media http://www.eurofish.dk/index.php/denmark

the eurofish.dk link have numerous dk links at the bottom of the page

This PDF https://www2.viu.ca/sturgeon/docs/AquaponicsLicensingFlowchart_V6.pdf

is a Canadian licencing flowchart, so different to Denmark, in regards to the licensing authorithies, however the principal is the same, so it's a good tool in lack of a simillare Danish flowchart IMO

This thread is a good read on iAVs and it holds links to the iAVs site

To your Q above on team content.

IMO the fish or aquaculture knowledge is high priority, as that is live stock, and the most "valueable" and vounerable part in a AP system

cheers

Thank you for the links. In the Eurofish.dk website, you have all the links for the most important official institutions related to aquaculture. Regarding the flow chart, I'm unsure what the Danish take on aquaponics is, when it comes to licensing or regulations in general. If I would go commercial, it could definitely serve as an inspiration in my dialogue with the authorities. And otherwise, I would go to the guys from Akvaponisk Selskab.

 

You mention that fish/aquaculture knowledge is high priority. Do you know of any formal, online courses on these topics?

As a agricultural example, I have seen an online course on dairy management offered by Coursera and Penn State University. 

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Hi Mikkel

On online aquaculture recourses/courses I'w found this good

http://www.aqualex.org/index.php/products-services/joomla-page-2/login-page-2

IMO hands on or practcal training at a fishfarm, RD facility or with a conservation group is of equal value (even more) to the technical/theoretical skills you can achive online or in a class. It all goes hand in hand I guess

This doc/pdf have references (last pages) to the regulations on aquaculture in DK

http://hvilested.dk/Dambrug/FarmingofFreshwaterRainbowTroutinDenmark.pdf

Lett us know how you progress on the matter, and obstacles or problems to overcome, are just as interesting to learn/hear about as sucsess.

Good luck ahead :D

 

cheers

edit to add another great online resource

 

 

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