Cecil

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  1. Sorry to hear that. I rarely have someone else haul my fish as I don't trust fish haulers. Also one of the reasons I try and produce all my own fish other than the fact that I hate hauling fish. I've heard of some that don't even use salt in their hauling tanks! Scott Schillig (Esshup) fortunately knows his stuff and is very conscientious about hauling fish. We both not only use salt but we also use a compound that neutralizes ammonia.
  2. It's verified. I was able to feed train 97.6 percent of the hybrid crappie in my basement tank on artificial feed. I was concerned as these fish were a little large for optimum feed training. Yesterday I drained down the crappie tank and moved the tilapia I had moved in with the crappies -- to help them feed train -- back to the tilapia tank. I was concerned the tilapia could start bullying the crappies as they were growing faster and had definitely become larger. I also wanted to make a better assessment of how the crappie were feeding in the tank, as in how many feeding fish were actually crappie vs. tilapia etc. 1. All the crappies seem to be in good condition except for about a dozen which I discarded. That dozen looked emaciated and were weak enough not to be able to endure handling very well. Apparently they never took to the feed which happens with some fish. 2. Once back in their tank I fed this morning, and it appears all are feeding -- including a few that struck the feed aggressively on the surface. Lots of flashes and movement under the water feeding on the sinking feed. Obviously if they haven't fed all this time they would looked and act like the dozen or so I discarded. (500 three to four inch crappie were planted into the tank I believe in November). 3. I suspect once I progress to a floating feed they will feed even more aggressively.
  3. I hope it works for you. I'm guessing you're going to have to feed the fry after they use their yolk sac up with brine shrimp/artemia or something until they can be trained on fry powder? Scott Schillig (Esshup) brought my hybrids up from Malone and Sons in Arkansas. They actually survived pretty well as I had no morts unti much later when I removed the tilapia from the same tank. As I indicated earlier those dozen or so fish were weak and emaciated.
  4. They are aggressive feeders! Look healthy. I forget -- are they hybrids or black crappies? Sounds good Brian! What feed are you using? Thanks for the kind words. The things that I have found make successful feed training more likely: 1. Crowding to elicit a more competitive response. (I put 500 in about 140 gallons of water) 2. Hit them heavy with the sinking feed several times a day. I think the term is blizzarding. You will waste some feed and you need to keep your clarifier clean with more partial water changes than normal but it's worth it. 4. Sinking feed. Contrary to what is typical these fish had no interest in freeze dried krill at first. But at some point I added it to the tank and they ate it. So I fed them exclusively freeze dried krill until I used up the bag (2 lbs.) and then it was back to the sinking feed. They also preferred it more whole and not crushed vs. very small pieces and powder. 5. Start them out as small as possible (Didn't happen with these hybrids as they were purchased 3 1/2 to 4 1/2 inches.) 6. Putting some similar sized feed trained fish in with that to help them learn ( in this case it was tilapia). But if the teaching fish get much larger than the fish you are feed training, it's probably a good idea to remove them as they may aggressively hoard the feed. I did this and the crappie are feeding even better now. 7. Add salt to help with stress. Knowing from experience how easily crappie are stressed, fungal and bacteria issues prone, and die from simply handling them, I added 0.5 percent salt I to the system for a couple of months. That's what's recommended for hauling and I figured it couldn't hurt as the bio filters don't have issues with salt at low levels. I've since dropped it down to 0.2 percent. Not sure what you can get away with in an aquaponics system before you have issues with the plants. 8. I suspect but can't verify it, I believe the low light conditions of my basement (I use a dimmer switch in conjunction with an incandescent bulb) may help at least keep the stress down which should make feeding more likely. If these guys are like the black crappies I hatched and feed trained myself, they will probably lose interest in pellets once released into the pond. I put my previous black crappies into a cage and they stopped feeding on pellets. There may have been fathead minnows that strayed into the cage, and crappies are know to feed on zooplankton. They seemed healthy when I checked on them so they must have been eating something. If I do it again I would also make the water depth in the cage shallower as it seemed they had to come up a ways to the floating feed. (You need to make it easy for fish to reach the goal you have set for them). My plan it to release a certain number into the pond (not sure if I will use a cage this time), and keep some in the tank longer in hopes they will be less likely to go off pellets once released into the pond. Once I plant the tilapia that are now in another tank in the basement, back into the pond for algae and weed control, to produce bass forage, and sell the excess, I will spread out the remaining crappies in both tanks and keep them until at least late summer.
  5. Yes crossing two different species as in the tiger trout causes high mortalities. One of the problems I have with with illustrating this step by step is the eggs though the alevin stage are very light sensitive. A camera flash is as bright as it gets. Could cause injuries. I sure hope I didn't screw up. I've been monitoring ammonia and nitrites and they've been reading as zero. Finally got around to checking nitrates and they were at least 160 mg/l! I did a massive water change right away. I hope I didn't so any harm to the eggs, alevins, or fry!
  6. My 150 gallon circular fish tank in the basement uses a sieve screen mounted in a plastic tote, two sock filters, and an up flow sand filter for mechanical filtration. Biofiltration is two 55 gallon blue drums with plastic media that mix constantly via an 80 lpm air pump that also supplies air to the fish tank. A 1/2 hp chiller fed with a 10 gpm mag drive water pump keeps the water temp cold enough which can be digitally set. The entire system's water moves by gravity and a 15 gpm mag drive pump. This is my second year hatching trout eggs in floating laundry baskets. As you can see by the picture the laundry baskets have the bottom and sides cut out and nylon screen siliconed in. Some hatched fry in one of the baskets. For some reason the photo makes it seem like much less than there are.
  7. Believe it or not Ande there are between 300 to 400 fry in that basket. I started out with 500 brook trout and 500 brown trout eggs. 1000 tiger trout eggs due to high mortality.
  8. A couple of the baskets floating in the circular tank. If you look closely you can see a black water tubing and plastic mesh zip tied to it. I have built a circular cage with 1/8th inch mesh and essentially lined the tank with it. When the fry are large enough, I tip the baskets and liberate the trout fry into the cage, which has its bottom above the cone shaped bottom of the tank. One problem I had last time around with the fry, was most went to the bottom when liberated into the tank, and didn't evenly space themselves like other species I've reared. This way I can adjust the cage up or down to put them at whatever depth I want. Probably lower the cage as the size and density increase. Once it's time to liberate them into the pond I will move the cage to the pond and put them back into it. A larger cage with larger mesh will be around that cage and one more around that. As the trout size increases the trout will be released into the successively larger cages with larger mesh. This protects the trout from predation of the larger free swimming trout in the pond and allows me to cull out the females in the fall, which don't sell as well as the males to my taxidermy market. The females also become egg bound if kept for another year, which ends up killing them. The females will be sold for other pond stocking in the fall for recreational fishing, through winter into the spring into ponds that get too warm in the summer. Most will be caught before they succumb to warm temps in those the ponds. My remaining males that are kept in my pond will be partially harvested and the rest allowed to grow another year. A brown and brook trout that were hatched December 2016 in the basement that were harvested November 2018. Just under 2 years of age in the photo. Fish are moved to a flow through outdoor pond in the spring at 4 to 5 inches in length. 10 to 14 inches by fall, average 16 to 17 inches the second fall. Should be 20 to 22 with some smaller and some bigger by the third fall. Brook, brown, and tiger trout eggs were Fedexed from the state of Utah USA overnight to Indiana USA. I am adding two more species the year: Rainbow/steelhead, and cutthroat trout. The rainbow eggs are presently incubating while the cutthroat eggs will arrive in April.
  9. Happy New Year to you guys too!
  10. I raise tilapia and other species in indoor recirculating systems in my basement. This year it's been much cooler than normal outside so I haven't removed them from their winter indoor tank and liberated them into my outdoor ponds for weed control yet. The other day the wife and I noticed the house smelled and I traced it to the tilapia tank in the basement. I don't believe I've had this issue with my other species or it may be a matter of the fish load in the tilapia tank which is quite high. Did a major water change of both my basement tanks (other tank has black crappie and bluegills) and cleaned the respective filters although I clean the mechanical filters on a weekly basis. Odor has gone away at least for the time being.
  11. Joe, Thanks for the reply. It's definitely a possibility that oxygen goes down as the fish load increases. The system I use for the fish other than the trout hatching and rearing consists of a circular tank with a bottom center drain that I can pull a knife gate valve on the floor to flush any wastes around it due to the diffuser mounted above the bottom drain that pushes water up and down the sides of the circular tank and back to the drain area. My solids filter consists of a 55 gallon blue drum packed with netting that captures solids via a 2 inch PVC siphon into it from the fish tank which of course runs continuously. A small mag drive pump that sits on top of the filler material pumps water to another 55 gallon blue drum (moving bed biofilter), which consists of a membrane diffuser in the bottom center that constantly moves plastic media up the center of the drum back down the sides. This overflows back into the fish tank to complete the cycle. I change about 50 gallons of water whenever I drain the solids filter drum to facilitate hosing off fish wastes off of the netting. Depending on the fish load and size his can be as little as once a week to once every few days.
  12. Turns out Mr. Osprey had to give it a try out of desperation and got tangled in the line. Fortunately I was able to get him out uninjured and he hasn't been back since. Probably due to the bad experience. I was also told he would migrate south some October and he probably did. The lines are definitely going back up in the spring!
  13. by running monofilament fishing line marked with orange duck tape tabs over he water and criss crossing it with other line. Seems to have done the job as they have left it alone.
  14. I'm sure the Dura skrim liner works for someone but mine has been nothing but a PITA for me. I thought it was my bulkhead fittings that caused my raft tank to leak but after adding addtiional gaskets and tightening them as much as possible it's apparently not the case. I can't find any holes but I do have a seam where two pieces were put together and I strongly suspect that is where my leak is. Wasn't crazy about how stiff the material is either. No blame on anyone just won't use this stuff again. How have your experiences been if you use it?
  15. I bought 3000 eggs which is their minimum. 1000 each, brook, brown, and tiger trout. The eggs and overnight FedEx shipping was under $300.00.
  16. They can and will physically ship the eggs Fed Ex anywhere in the U.S. The problem is you have to have permission from your Fish & Game department. May be O.K. if kept inside? I know a guy in Michigan though that was requited to destroy the char as he didn't get permission. There is also a minimum size order. If you want trout eggs either diploid or triploid brook, brown, or tigers this is where I get my eggs (with permission from my DNR). https://coldspringstroutfarm.com/activities/category/trout-egg-sales/
  17. Trout Lodge sells Arctic char eggs. https://www.troutlodge.com/en/
  18. BTW that whole deep state thing is just what it sounds like - a conspiracy theory. I can't believe you buy into it. Sounds like something Sean Hannity cooked up who is the biggest douche bag next to Trump. The man laughs all the way to the bank as he just makes stuff up for gullible people to buy into to keep his ratings up.
  19. O.K. lets forget about personal. Lets talk about skills that are needed as president of the United States. He has poor leadership skills, he hires people that don't remotely have the prerequisites for the job, and he doesn't even have the balls to fire people in person. And then there's the lack of self discipline. He can't keep his trap shut on Twitter regardless of the harm it will do to him and the country. And his word can't be trusted as he changes his mind faster than a speeding ticket. These are not qualities we want in a president! HIs most admired leaders in the world are dictators - Putin and Erdogan. You can shout constitution all you want but Trump would do away with it if he could. As far as the FBI, it's very telling that they were well respected by the right until Trump came along and they started investigating potential collusion with Russia. All of a sudden they were the bad guys. Trump doesn't make a pimple on Mueller's ass, and he sure didn't serve his country when asked to while Mueller was distinguishing himself in Vietnam in the Marine Corps. You should at least respect Mueller for his service as you are a marine vs. a rich brat whose daddy kept hm from serving. Can you answer me a question? If Obama would have done half of what Trump has done and said, wouldn't you be screaming from the roof tops! Be honest!
  20. Obama and Trump are the same? WTF?! What are you smoking? Did Obama get married 4 X because he cheated on every wife including the present one? Did Obama brag about "grabbing pussy" and is being sued by countless women for sexual assault? Did just about every cabinet member and aid around him either resign, been fired, or been indicted under Obama? Did Obama brag about how great he is from day one? Did Obama appoint people to positions that are totally unqualified or just family members? Did Obama change his mind ever 24 hours on major decisions or praise a man that was responsible for hacking into our government and meddling in our election? As far as you can keep your doctor comment I'm not sure I see that is a lie. You see rather than depend on Fox News to tell me it was a lie, I know numerous folks that are on the PPACA (Obama Care) and none of them lost their doctor. Not one. The economy never took off under Obama? Absolutely untrue. He started his term after one of the worst recessions since the Great Depression and it only got better as it was near rock bottom. The following graph shows that. Just because the blowhard in chief takes all the credit doesn't make it so. https://www.factcheck.org/2017/09/obamas-final-numbers/ Trump has nothing to do with "little rocket man" working with South Korea. It's the South Koreans that are doing all the heavy lifting and Trump just yells stupid threats from the sidelines and takes credit.
  21. I would assume anything on the web can be more easily hacked? That's how Russian hackers got into power plants etc here in the U.S.
  22. Wife says: 1. Don't use one that is only web based. 2. Buy a program that you download and keep on your computer. 3. Wife really likes one called 1Password that's available for Mac, Apple, and phones.
  23. I wish I could help but I'm nowhere near an expert in this bigdaddy. I'll ask the wife and her colleague at school as they know a lot about this kind of thing.
  24. We are going into spring up here in the northern hemisphere as you are going into fall. Just curious what your summer was like. Above average temps, or below? Precipitation above or below? Just like the last few years our spring doesn't want to come. Below average temps and some places are getting record spring snowfalls. ?
  25. I have tilapia in my basement tank that I never heat in the winter anymore. It's cool enough down there I have to wear a sweater when I work in the taxidermy shop. Unfortunately my temp gauge is no longer accurate, but the water definitely feels cool to the touch. I'm guesstimating lower 60's F. Fish feed well once a day.