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  3. Hi So almost 3 years down the road, I finally finished making the last product out of this hog. When cutting him down hanging from the Volvo front loader, I (we) had a minor incident . My friend helping out, was supposed to lift the hog a bit up, accidentally he lowered it in stead, so the front loader hit my head. I almost passed out and was left with a 2inch bleeding cut on the top of my scull. After a bit swear & curse, and a duct tape bandage on my head, there was tossed a few jokes, about the need for me to get a hardhat, as part of my butchering kit. I said I would make one out of the hogs scrotum, as it seemed to have the propper shape/form/size in every ones opinion. I carefully cut it of for that purpose in mind, stuck it in the freezer and forgot all about it. Then last summer it popped up again, so I found a diy instruction on how to preserve pig skin and got on with the job. Then I stuck it on the loft for drying up. When getting the Christmas lights down from the loft the other day, I found it again. Turned out great Perfect fit cheers
  4. Hi Willroy, When I first started off with aquaponics, forums were the go...I was a very active member of 3 forums. there were many active participants and many more "sleepers". I feel the biggest contributor to forums being inactive along with consistent changes in personal living and lives is the advent of other social media platforms becoming far more popular.In general, the new school people just like to look at pictures maybe post a couple of short comments maybe post a picture of their own and move on to the next thread. In these type of forums we are far more involved than that and because of that we are far more technical and get the most benefit IMO. As an example, one of my businesses are listed on twitter but I just don't get how that works yet others love it. Pintrest is interesting for pics and maybe some particular Thai recipes but it doesn't give you the experience of cooking, the whys where and how does this work. I enjoy YouTube, but do not understand the monetization side of it, yet my son completely understands it and is right into it. So yeah,I agree,these forums do display a lot less "visual" activity then in days gone by. Sometimes you do find that people do move to other things and some do actually come back and become active again. As for me, my life has changed since I first started and I have become far, far more busy with life and actually struggle to find time to be on all the forums I used to be involved with and certainly to the extent I used to be and even at times struggle here but I still enjoy forums for their technical aspect better. That's my opinion anyway. Cheers.
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  6. Hi DrCoffee, Yes, there is much that can go wrong. Start a new post in the systems sections about your setup. Tell us what has worked for you, and what has not. The more details, water tests etc you provide, the more assistance members will be able to offer. Dont forget to add some pictures, they can tell us 1000 words each. Cheers Toga
  7. Hi, Lets look at some ERW Rice Culture Trials. Conducted by Ida Agriculture, transplantation of the "Electrolysed Water Farming" in Kanagawa Prefecture was in full swing in the month of May 2016. In rice farming, one of the most important processes is the rice seed disinfection. For the cleaning and disinfecting of the rice seeds, acidic electrolysed water was used. A "Designated Harmless Agricultural Chemical" approved by the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries and Ministry of the Environment of Japan, for its sterilising power and its harmless effects on the human body and the environment. Although the height of transplanting season is in May, Ido Agriculture began transplanting on April 10 (nearly a month earlier than the rice paddy using agricultural chemicals), and they will continue until the beginning of July. The father and son team, Toshihiro and Tetsuya Ido, rushed about the wide paddy fields working hard at transplantation. To find out about the condition of the first set of seedlings after 40 days, I visited the site in Late May. All of the seedlings in the paddy reserved for regular observation (Paddy A), grew to around 30cm tall. Since these seedlings were raised to around 12cm in a greenhouse seedbed before transplanting, it would mean that the rice seedlings grew 20cm in approximately 40 days. It seems they are growing steadily and with out any issues. In the other farmer's paddy, which is using agricultural chemicals (Paddy B), the seedlings transplanted during the Japanese holidays in early May were also observed to be growing taller. However, it is the distance between each seedling which is particularly interesting. It was obvious that Paddy A was much more sparsely planted than Paddy B. This indicates that more were able to be planted in Paddy B, because the seedlings were placed closer together. I was told that, although it is too early to tell now, as the plants grow thicker, the difference in the "fullness" of the 2 paddies will become evident. Also, the widely spaced and more sparsely planted Paddy A will grow to be more abundant than the closely spaced Paddy B. Unlike rice seeds disinfected with agrochemicals, there was no damage found in the rice seeds disinfected with electrolysed water. Because of this, the seedlings will be able to grow into strong rice plants. We shall see the proof of this claim in 2 month's time. The paddies cultivated by Ido Agriculture are located on the outskirts of Takamatsu City, Kagawa. Although this year's increased rainfall and lack of sun caused some unease among the local farmers, the high temperatures, and humidity brought on by the end of the rainy season spurred on the growth of the rice plants, assisting in making up the leeway. This climate change not only boosted the growth of the rice plants but also the weeds in the paddies. When observing Paddy B, in which agrochemicals are being used, weeds are no where to be found. On the other hand, Paddy A, using only electrolysed water is abundant with weeds, as it does not contain any types of chemicals (weed killer). This can be considered more proof of the safety of electrolysed water farming. During this visit, I decided to pay closer attention to the stems and roots of the plants in each paddy. Around twenty stems were collected from Paddy A, while forty or so stems were collected from Paddy B, presenting a major difference between the paddies. Sparsely planted Paddy A does not require the use of chemicals, as its well-ventilated environment helps to control the spread of harmful insects. A further look into both paddies shows that the number of roots is greater in Paddy A than in Paddy B. Much more effort was needed to pull out the rice plants from Paddy A. Both facts provide evidence that the plants in Paddy A are firmly rooted, creating a strong foundation for the plants' growth. When comparing the height of the plants in the paddies, the plants in Paddy B were found to be slightly taller. The growth of the plants in Paddy A were intentionally suppressed by suspending the irrigation process and draining out the paddy for a selected period of time in order to reduce damage caused by wind. If everything goes according to plan, the first harvest arrives in mid-August. Although it may almost seem a bit trite to say, we are experiencing abnormal weather lately. Up until the end of July, fine weather continued on with a blazing sun and rising temperatures. After the Bon Holidays (July 13-16), however, the weather became unstable, as sunshine was rarely seen and long spells of rain, severe storms and typhoons hit the islands of Japan. Thanks to clear skies preceding the Bon Holidays, we had been reaping slightly more than the past years' harvests, but now the situation has turned cloudy. Due to the unusually inclement weather, the harvest has been running behind schedule. When I visited the farms in Kagawa Prefecture at the end of September, the rice plants in most of the paddies still remained green and had yet to turn golden. This was also the case for rice paddies owned by Ido Agriculture, both in the ERW trial paddies, which use electrolysed water, and in the normal rice paddies using agricultural chemicals. This is not to say that none of the crops were able to be harvested. A portion of the normal rice paddies has already been harvested and when compared to the crops from the ERW paddies which were harvested in August, there does not seem to be any differences in size. The biggest difference was that the process of weeding, which was indispensable during the harvesting of the ERW rice, reported in last month's issue, was unnecessary in the harvest of the normal paddies. This time and effort consuming task can be eliminated as there are no weeds found in normal rice paddies. However, what should not be ignored is the fact that this “efficiency” is achieved only by taking the great risk of using agricultural chemicals. I would also like to add that during this visit, I was amazed to discover the hidden powers of rice plants. From the stubbles in one of Ido Agriculture's paddies harvested in August, new stalks of rice plants were growing tall producing a second crop in the same paddy. As double cropping is not commonly practiced in Japan, I was surprised to witness the amazing potential the rice plants possessed. The final stage of harvesting has finally arrived in the rice fields of Ido Agriculture. The ERW paddy using electrolysed water (photo 1) and normal paddy using agrochemicals (photo 2) were compared just before harvesting. When viewing the photos below, the difference is quite apparent, as the "weeds” which are abundant in Paddy 1 (tall plants called millets) are not found in Paddy 2. No weeds are able to grow in the normal paddy, as large amounts of pesticides and chemical fertilisers are used. The ERW paddy, filled with weeds, proves how safe and reliable electrolysed rice farming is. The safety of electrolysed rice farming has also been proven by science. The rice harvested in September underwent a series of testing at the Environmental Research Centre (Ibaraki Prefecture) and has received an all clear in 250 items of agricultural chemicals, including DDT, as they were “undetected" during testing (photo 3). Electrolysed water rice farming is free of pesticide residue that is an advanced farming system is in line with the future standard of agroecology. After the harvest, Ido Agriculture uses a special machine to hull the rice, separating it into brown rice and husk. When it has been screened for quality and is rid of waste and other foreign substances, it is put through drying process, reducing the moisture level to approximately 15%. Then, the brown rice is packed in one-ton bags and is sent to the milling and packaging company. The milling and packaging company, Kuriya (Kagawa Prefecture), is a long established company that has been in business for 134 years. The ERW Rice is milled, screened, weighed, packaged and vacuum-sealed there before reaching the consumers. In fact, Kuriya is so thorough in their sanitation management that they also use the electrolysed water in the process of sanitising and disinfecting the facility (photo 4). This new organic ERW Rice is said be available for sale around the world starting mid 2017. ... and for the record - No, I have not seen any ERW Rice available here in Australia yet... but I am keen to try some ! Cheers Toga
  8. Thank you sooo much Willroy, You're comments were well appreciated for real I am doing almost exactly as what you've mentioned in your comment. Thus, lemme see what would be the result in the next few weeks! Frankly speaking! the other day i checked the Ph and guess what? it was 8.4, but! The look of the plants was fabulous! even though lots of people whom i know from all over the world, they say that the 8.4Ph level is not good!! I am learning as our system grows.. so again thanks a lot and please keep in touch. PS. If you have some times, please post some video of your system. Regards, Mohamed
  9. not really, i wouldnt have a problem with putting them in the same tank unless you are breeding and specifically dont want crosses.. and by reeding, i dont think you have to try, they just will. the fry are very small and will likely drain into the other tank tho. if its a relatively small tank most wont survive predation. just depends on what your goals are.
  10. @bcotton Following your helpful comments in the previous post, I am looking for some further advise. I have almost finished my small AP system. I live in the tropics. I am receiving a batch of Niloticus and Mossambicus fingerlings in a few weeks. I have two fish tanks in the system. I will keep the two varieties separated. I was planning to have one tank drain into the other though. Apart from potential disease transfer, do you see any issue with this? Many thanks
  11. Hi Ravnis, Hi all, 7 years ago there was much less info available, but even back then, I was reading info that compelled me to investigate further. Hehe... I could copy my above comment here as well... I need take caution here because this post is not about me promoting or selling products that I have researched for 7 years... but by the very nature of the topic, it is a very specialised scientific niche. The difference between a scam product and a medical, commercial or industrial grade product is; component & build quality AND scientifically verifiable results... perhaps it is best to say; There are innovators and then there are imitators. --------------------------------------- So... here is a little more about ERW. Water = H2O /or 2 molecules of Hydrogen and 1 molecule of Oxygen Hydrogen has 2 ions, 1 positive charged and 1 negative charged. These natural (and variable) electrical charges are measured in "Millivolts" (mV3) ERW 'super charges' these Hydrogen Ions and concentrates the "H+" charged ions together and the "H-" charged ions together. A quick (but important) side detour... as we are aware, water has another property; pH /or "Power of Hydrogen" pH has a scale of 0.0pH - 14.0pH The process of electrolysis separates these 2 charged hydrogen concentrations into a "H+" (acidic solution) and into a "H-" (alkaline solution) By splitting and separating these "2 differently charged hydrogen solutions"... we are also splitting and separating "2 different pH solutions". This "splitting of 2 different pH concentrations" must and will always have a combined total of 14.0pH... regardless of their individual electrical charges, which can very. What this simply means is: You put in 1 water source, and get 2 water types out simultaneously ... ie: 1.5pH from one hose and 12.5pH from another hose... *Edit Added ( 1.5 + 12.5 = 14.0 )* 2.0pH / 12pH ( = 14.0) 2.5pH / 11.5pH ( = 14.0) 3.0pH / 11.0pH ( = 14.0) 3.5pH / 10.5pH ( = 14.0) 4.0pH / 10.0pH ( = 14.0) 4.5pH / 9.5pH ( = 14.0) 5.0pH / 9.0pH ( = 14.0) 5.5pH / 8.5pH ( = 14.0) 6.0pH / 8.0pH ( = 14.0) 6.5pH / 7.5pH ( = 14.0) 7.0pH / 7.0pH ( = 14.0) That is the simple part... the complexity ( and science - and history ) begins when we start discussing the variable 'Millivolt' charges, and combining them at various different pH levels. Acidic water that is produced by electrolysis is called "Hypochlorous Acid". Wiki describes Hypochlorous Acid as: Hypochlorous acid (HClO) is a weak acid that forms when chlorine dissolves in water, and itself partially dissociates, forming hypochlorite, ClO−. HClO and ClO− are oxidizers, and the primary disinfection agents of chlorine solutions.[2] HClO cannot be isolated from these solutions due to rapid equilibration with its precursor. Sodium hypochlorite (NaClO) and calcium hypochlorite (Ca(ClO)2), are bleaches, deodorants, and disinfectants. Hypochlorous acid is also used for wastewater treatment. It is used as an oxidizing and a disinfectant agent. It is preferred in the water treatment industry because of the convenience of storage, transport, and use. Apart from this, cost-effectiveness and non-toxicity to humans and animals are factors that contribute to its increased use. Furthermore, it is an effective microbicide, particularly against waterborne pathogens. In your commonly bought from shopping centre bleach - Hypochlorous Acid is often up to 85% of the volume. (ie: 1ltr of bleach = 850ml H+ water) Strong acidic solutions will have a positive ORP reading of +900 to + 1400 mV3 (bleach = <+900mV3) When producing strong Hypochlorous acid you are also simultaneously producing what is (sometimes) referred to as "Cathodic Water". The resultant product is a solution of sodium hydroxide (NaOH) with a pH of 11-13.8 Strong alkaline solutions will have a negative ORP reading of -950 to -1400 mV3 due to the dissolved hydrogen gas. (alkali cleaners = <-1000mV3) This strong alkaline water is extensvely used in industry for cleansing, rinsing, disinfecting, lipid extraction etc. It can readily saponify oils, making it a useful washing agent for greasy or oily areas. This also has the ability to extract and reduce the pesticides on produce by soaking the vegetables. So for those that have never heard of Electrolysis of Water... it has been a foundation tool of almost every industry sector for a century. Cheers Toga
  12. I have made some updated drawing after a previous meeting with my Companion. I had to get the one Pump idea cleared. I apologize that the Trap Housings for the harvest, and how how contain the Red Claw Crayfish fry I am not posting here. It took 5 years to develop these until 95% catch rate and success for breeding/feeding in tanks for marketable sizes. The size of the grow beds was one issue, the food a another one and how the get them harvested when there are 1300 Floating rafts full of Greens above them was a biggest question. You grow one size and can make a $$ but If you have no control as you can't reach them, then the stock goes low in a few month, here the mechanics are asked and that is well done from Holland and a Crayfish farmer here in Thailand, my nephew ;-).. All this was about 20000 EUR of literally building and destroying work, sweat and tears.
  13. I forgot to tell that I germinate all plants in Rockwool or Sponges before planting them in my rafts and grow beds. With Salad and Lettuce I had a loss of almost 99% when directly seeded into the grow beds. The reason I found out is that many plants love light to germinate and in your gravel they simply falling too deep into the media and rotting away. Try first to put the seeds on top of any media, Lettuce for example comes within 3 days if they are surface seeded.. 'Underground' it takes 3 week till never..
  14. Hello Mohamed, Thanks for the video update. Seeding into gravel is always problematic in terms of germination, survival & growth. Some do ok, some dont. Then you have transplanting seedlings... same thing, some do ok, and some dont. Practice and experiment to find what works best for you. I note the pond water appears slightly clearer, this is good... as Willroy and I have mentioned, this algae will starve the grow beds. As your grow beds mature, and more plants start growing, they will increase capacity and mineral content. On another point of comment, your new water timing. I feel that even in your winter that 3 hours off is to long... this is one reason why transplanted seedlings go wilting. Common pump timing is 15mins ON - 45mins OFF. Also is better for the fish to have a more regular circulation. Additionally, I noted that some grow beds were full of water when sitting and water pump timer is off. This is very bad ! This can create toxic conditions ! ... and... Can create disease in plant roots ! Grow beds must drain fully and must never stand full of water. All up, good work my friend. Greens are starting to grow and pond looks a little clearer. It takes time to learn about so many different things... and how they work and act with each other. Cheers Toga
  15. Hi toppy007 Welcome to APN/HQ Nice diy-build and instructions The tank looks a bit small to keep any number of fish in IMO Have you tried to grow any thing in it yet ? cheers
  16. Absolutely no way I can keep this warm enough inside a tent..the winter grow will have to wait till next year when the structure is finished...got the fish inside under the house...now to put together a small system to keep the water clean...easy peasy.
  17. iPrunes is my attempt at an indoor aquaponic garden. I wanted to design a fruitful unit that was compact, adaptable and aesthetic. The design for me also had to be easily replicated and re definable as technology advances. The design used open source materials & manufacturing techniques which are widely available in makerspaces globally. You Can view the system at the following: https://www.instructables.com/id/IPrunes-Aquaponics-System/ And thoughts welcome
  18. Hi all, Last Time at home my wife had brought some Duckweed (wolffia arrhiza my best guess) out of the northeast of Thailand and was very happy. She told me excited its hard to get and expensive. I have tried the soup she made even it was looking more than disgusting and had also 'some' smell that suits not really an European nose.. But surprisingly it was pretty tasteful and as I took a spoonful purged the broth off it even did remind me a bit like watercress (kind off) but it actually didn't taste that bad. A small amount we tried to introduce into our system but was gone. It seems a bit sensible to changes even its considered a weed. May be out crays and Tilapias also did a good job and took whatever came in reach. Does anyone agree that Duckweed might be having a potential to become a new top range food supply for humans around the world. In Thailand it is definitively considered a luxury and almost not available anymore. A pest that gets extinguished over there how strange that sounds.
  19. Hello, we just faced the same problem. We never had within 5 years much trouble with smell but as we extended our system and the fact that crayfish demand too much space we introduced tilapia to boost our Nitrate need. Our experience is that Tilapia is much more dirty than crays and they were smelling until we battered the tanks with Oxygen. (Using an air blower) As we experienced sufficient oxygen supply was the A&O the smell disappeared as fast it came. There are options with pure oxygen (from Bottles) supply but they are in Thailand (one of the main producer of Tilapia) not recommended. The Farmers told me the fish gets "brown Blood" but also they told me that you can be gentle with normal air supply as it doesn't harm the fish.
  20. Hello Mohamed, I am living in Thailand so we have a bit the same Temperatures to deal with. First I had the same problem and the plants were looking all other than healthy. Leaves were yellow due to nutrient deficiencies, PH level was also quite a struggle. It took me about 1 year that all sorted itself so as above from other members stated is the main factor the age of the system. The bacteria need to grow and plants that have a high demand like Tomatoes and Aubergines for example need systems that are at least 2 years old or even older according to my experience. Then the issue you have a huge pond that feeds your system. I would suggest to make some separated tanks with tilapia that feeds the system 1:1 till max 2:1 water rate did it for me. In your pond are algae and most likely there is no or little fertilizer left for your plants. Also you never have the density of fish in your pond to run an aquaponics system proper and controlled. Also Duckweed (a Delicatess in Thailand and food supplements for ours fishes) use surprisingly much Nitrate which isn't then anymore available for your plants. But first of all give it time, this is the most important thing of all. You might remember your pond as you built it, how long did it go up and down, how much fish died before it starting to balance itself. My mistake was at the begin that I tried all and everything to have some influence in the balance and it made actually things worse. Mother nature does this by herself but she decides when the time is due and the up and downs getting slower until the values stay at a certain level. In your new system you will experience a rapid increasing of ammonia and somehow it will start going down after weeks, that is the moment when your bacteria starting to spread all over the system. I am now almost 6 years with my backyard system and from time to time the balance goes out when we for example harvest too much, a fish has died and we haven't seen it or we took too much Crayfish (they taste so good that you always want one more) for our Sunday barbecues.. To the other members, please correct me if I am wrong at some point but that was what I experienced with my system in Thailand. (Check my other treads, there are some photos and a story)
  21. Hi Nice tool https://www.fishfarmingexpert.com/article/english-version-of-hit-norwegian-fish-welfare-manual-coming-soon/ cheers
  22. I found this link when trying to find more info as I had not heard of this. Anything with an 80 percent remission rate is worth more investigation. Study ERW and Rheumatoid Arthritis I realize the sample size is extremely small, so I would like to see further studies on that with a larger sample size. Overview of research on health effects. It seems similar to when we replace some water in our aquaponic systems and we get a short boost in growth. From what I can gather there are very specific devices for making this water and a lot of quack devices that claim to make it, but really are scams.
  23. Hello again, Update video Talk to ya later Mohamed
  24. Hey cool thanks! Shot a few pics but my phone does not do well in low light I will get some next trip...so far...working good..a bit at a time...alotta water to heat.
  25. Hi brushhippie OK like this ? cheers
  26. Tank in place for first test...tank heating up...frikkin second hand pump leaks... Ran it for a few minutes..(heater water is around 64) brought the temp up almost a degree to 52.9 and the water is not even good and warm yet...of course water from the ground runs 58ish...was going to change the title of the thread since it is about the heater now...could not figure it out...some web master...lol
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