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  3. I dunno about the OK truck.. it could have been a bad batch or it occurs to me most (all?) of their customers are ponds and people dont really see or documentt the mortality rate (since sometimes fish are terminal but still swimming when they are released) so they get away with it. As for the malone and sons.. i do try to get their crappie.. i just try really hard to get them as close to the time they were pulled from the pond as possible.. I just call and bother my pond stocking place on when they are planning their shipments.. the usually get their deliveries in the middle of the week and i go pickup my fish the same weekend after. Its not 100% but its all a numbers game and giving yourself the best chance. And through those conversations you hear things like "they arent ready yet" and you guess at weather or not that means the next shipment will be the best one t o try to grab for people not cecil reading the thread.. the reason its so important to have strong healthy fish is because when you are feed training they dont necessarily start eating right away and the longer they go without eating eventually they get to a point where they just shut down and filter feed and will never feed train.. so starting with the healthiest fish possible is super important.
  4. Sorry to hear that. I rarely have someone else haul my fish as I don't trust fish haulers. Also one of the reasons I try and produce all my own fish other than the fact that I hate hauling fish. I've heard of some that don't even use salt in their hauling tanks! Scott Schillig (Esshup) fortunately knows his stuff and is very conscientious about hauling fish. We both not only use salt but we also use a compound that neutralizes ammonia.
  5. i have met malone and sons truck in shreveport, LA twice (its a 3+ hour drive each way).. the first time it was the healthiest fish i ever started with.. the second time they were unhealthy, emaciated had obv been sitting in holding tank for week+ and i lost all of them within a few days of transport. The only other place i get fish from now is a pond stocking reseller in north texas named pond king who gets their fish from wherever , but every time i have asked the crappie have been from malone and sons too. The only time i have gotten fish that i dont think originated from malone and sons was when i met an Oklahoma fish truck that delivers to suburbs around dallas. I wont mention the name because this post would sound slanderous.. I bought several types of fish not just crappie and they were all a total loss despite my leg of the transport only being about 15 mins plus the water acclimation process i always use. In 10+ years of this hobby, the only time i have ever lost non-crappie fish due to transport/handling was that Oklahoma hatchery
  6. I hope it works for you. I'm guessing you're going to have to feed the fry after they use their yolk sac up with brine shrimp/artemia or something until they can be trained on fry powder? Scott Schillig (Esshup) brought my hybrids up from Malone and Sons in Arkansas. They actually survived pretty well as I had no morts unti much later when I removed the tilapia from the same tank. As I indicated earlier those dozen or so fish were weak and emaciated.
  7. These are black crappie. They are eating optimal blue gill or bluegill jr or a mix i cant remember but i pretty much only use optimal now. Salt can be ok in aquaponics. People do salt when fish are stressed.. different plants have different tolerances to salt levels. But when i feed train its in a garage nuresery system which s only aquaculture so its not a problem for me. And now that i think i about it i am pretty sure i salted the day i got them. so i think i do all of the same things.. I still struggle to find healthy fish.. they all come from fish farms in arkansas swhich means inconvenient and long travel.. And since the crappie dont eat anything you dont really know how long ago they were taken from the pond and how ling they were sitting in a holding tank at the hatchery before it even sits in a truck or another holding tank at the pond stocking place.. so yah.. i hope i can get these guys to reproduce and i dont have to mess with that anymore..
  8. They are aggressive feeders! Look healthy. I forget -- are they hybrids or black crappies? Sounds good Brian! What feed are you using? Thanks for the kind words. The things that I have found make successful feed training more likely: 1. Crowding to elicit a more competitive response. (I put 500 in about 140 gallons of water) 2. Hit them heavy with the sinking feed several times a day. I think the term is blizzarding. You will waste some feed and you need to keep your clarifier clean with more partial water changes than normal but it's worth it. 4. Sinking feed. Contrary to what is typical these fish had no interest in freeze dried krill at first. But at some point I added it to the tank and they ate it. So I fed them exclusively freeze dried krill until I used up the bag (2 lbs.) and then it was back to the sinking feed. They also preferred it more whole and not crushed vs. very small pieces and powder. 5. Start them out as small as possible (Didn't happen with these hybrids as they were purchased 3 1/2 to 4 1/2 inches.) 6. Putting some similar sized feed trained fish in with that to help them learn ( in this case it was tilapia). But if the teaching fish get much larger than the fish you are feed training, it's probably a good idea to remove them as they may aggressively hoard the feed. I did this and the crappie are feeding even better now. 7. Add salt to help with stress. Knowing from experience how easily crappie are stressed, fungal and bacteria issues prone, and die from simply handling them, I added 0.5 percent salt I to the system for a couple of months. That's what's recommended for hauling and I figured it couldn't hurt as the bio filters don't have issues with salt at low levels. I've since dropped it down to 0.2 percent. Not sure what you can get away with in an aquaponics system before you have issues with the plants. 8. I suspect but can't verify it, I believe the low light conditions of my basement (I use a dimmer switch in conjunction with an incandescent bulb) may help at least keep the stress down which should make feeding more likely. If these guys are like the black crappies I hatched and feed trained myself, they will probably lose interest in pellets once released into the pond. I put my previous black crappies into a cage and they stopped feeding on pellets. There may have been fathead minnows that strayed into the cage, and crappies are know to feed on zooplankton. They seemed healthy when I checked on them so they must have been eating something. If I do it again I would also make the water depth in the cage shallower as it seemed they had to come up a ways to the floating feed. (You need to make it easy for fish to reach the goal you have set for them). My plan it to release a certain number into the pond (not sure if I will use a cage this time), and keep some in the tank longer in hopes they will be less likely to go off pellets once released into the pond. Once I plant the tilapia that are now in another tank in the basement, back into the pond for algae and weed control, to produce bass forage, and sell the excess, I will spread out the remaining crappies in both tanks and keep them until at least late summer.
  9. thats really awesome.. I will have to go back and reread your thread for ideas on how to improve my results. As of now i have 20 that made it to 5-7" and now i am going to see if i can breed them in my tanks and aquariums like i did with bluegill and res
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  11. Yes crossing two different species as in the tiger trout causes high mortalities. One of the problems I have with with illustrating this step by step is the eggs though the alevin stage are very light sensitive. A camera flash is as bright as it gets. Could cause injuries. I sure hope I didn't screw up. I've been monitoring ammonia and nitrites and they've been reading as zero. Finally got around to checking nitrates and they were at least 160 mg/l! I did a massive water change right away. I hope I didn't so any harm to the eggs, alevins, or fry!
  12. Hi Cecil I didn't know the tiger trout mortality, was higer. Is it as much as double that of brook & brown ? Would be cool if you ever found the time to write/illustrate a step by step article, on hatching and rearing trouts in a (your) diy ras. You'w made so many interesting posts/pics, on the matter here, IMO it would/could make a good guide/manual if they where all put together in a article cheers
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  14. Believe it or not Ande there are between 300 to 400 fry in that basket. I started out with 500 brook trout and 500 brown trout eggs. 1000 tiger trout eggs due to high mortality.
  15. Hi Cecil How many is it ? cheers
  16. A couple of the baskets floating in the circular tank. If you look closely you can see a black water tubing and plastic mesh zip tied to it. I have built a circular cage with 1/8th inch mesh and essentially lined the tank with it. When the fry are large enough, I tip the baskets and liberate the trout fry into the cage, which has its bottom above the cone shaped bottom of the tank. One problem I had last time around with the fry, was most went to the bottom when liberated into the tank, and didn't evenly space themselves like other species I've reared. This way I can adjust the cage up or down to put them at whatever depth I want. Probably lower the cage as the size and density increase. Once it's time to liberate them into the pond I will move the cage to the pond and put them back into it. A larger cage with larger mesh will be around that cage and one more around that. As the trout size increases the trout will be released into the successively larger cages with larger mesh. This protects the trout from predation of the larger free swimming trout in the pond and allows me to cull out the females in the fall, which don't sell as well as the males to my taxidermy market. The females also become egg bound if kept for another year, which ends up killing them. The females will be sold for other pond stocking in the fall for recreational fishing, through winter into the spring into ponds that get too warm in the summer. Most will be caught before they succumb to warm temps in those the ponds. My remaining males that are kept in my pond will be partially harvested and the rest allowed to grow another year. A brown and brook trout that were hatched December 2016 in the basement that were harvested November 2018. Just under 2 years of age in the photo. Fish are moved to a flow through outdoor pond in the spring at 4 to 5 inches in length. 10 to 14 inches by fall, average 16 to 17 inches the second fall. Should be 20 to 22 with some smaller and some bigger by the third fall. Brook, brown, and tiger trout eggs were Fedexed from the state of Utah USA overnight to Indiana USA. I am adding two more species the year: Rainbow/steelhead, and cutthroat trout. The rainbow eggs are presently incubating while the cutthroat eggs will arrive in April.
  17. My 150 gallon circular fish tank in the basement uses a sieve screen mounted in a plastic tote, two sock filters, and an up flow sand filter for mechanical filtration. Biofiltration is two 55 gallon blue drums with plastic media that mix constantly via an 80 lpm air pump that also supplies air to the fish tank. A 1/2 hp chiller fed with a 10 gpm mag drive water pump keeps the water temp cold enough which can be digitally set. The entire system's water moves by gravity and a 15 gpm mag drive pump. This is my second year hatching trout eggs in floating laundry baskets. As you can see by the picture the laundry baskets have the bottom and sides cut out and nylon screen siliconed in. Some hatched fry in one of the baskets. For some reason the photo makes it seem like much less than there are.
  18. It's verified. I was able to feed train 97.6 percent of the hybrid crappie in my basement tank on artificial feed. I was concerned as these fish were a little large for optimum feed training. Yesterday I drained down the crappie tank and moved the tilapia I had moved in with the crappies -- to help them feed train -- back to the tilapia tank. I was concerned the tilapia could start bullying the crappies as they were growing faster and had definitely become larger. I also wanted to make a better assessment of how the crappie were feeding in the tank, as in how many feeding fish were actually crappie vs. tilapia etc. 1. All the crappies seem to be in good condition except for about a dozen which I discarded. That dozen looked emaciated and were weak enough not to be able to endure handling very well. Apparently they never took to the feed which happens with some fish. 2. Once back in their tank I fed this morning, and it appears all are feeding -- including a few that struck the feed aggressively on the surface. Lots of flashes and movement under the water feeding on the sinking feed. Obviously if they haven't fed all this time they would looked and act like the dozen or so I discarded. (500 three to four inch crappie were planted into the tank I believe in November). 3. I suspect once I progress to a floating feed they will feed even more aggressively.
  19. Hi lourde0927 Welcome to APN/HQ I deleted your link in the post above as it lead me to a commercial site and not to a article about strains. I spent some time on the site looking for such article, but couldn't fine any articles at all. So you might want to try again if you indeed have a link on the matter cheers
  20. Have you ever heard about these foods infused cannabis? I tried frozen yogurt infused cannabis before and it really tastes good! and now, there's new and something interesting! On the other hand, Ingesting Cannabis has a side effect that can lead you addiction because of its high dosage that you'll never know how much dosage that food has. By continually do researching, I came across in this article about strains
  21. Hi a99 Yes it's possible. Affnan lays out how to connect multiple grow beds to a common siphon here http://www.affnanaquaponics.com/search?q=siphon&updated-max=2010-05-18T17:11:00%2B08:00&max-results=20&start=3&by-date=false cheers edit to ad a better link http://www.affnanaquaponics.com/2009/06/aquaponics-multiple-growth-bed-system.html
  22. Amazing! In my country (United Arab Emirates) during the summer it get's soo HOT, therefore, we have greenhouses for planting veggies during the summer. Kindly take a look at my latest video If you have any comments or Q.'s please through them in! we're here to exchange information
  23. Hi, I know this sound a bit weird, since this post was posted loong time a go, I just thought of sharing what we have at my greenhouse lately. Please Enjoy all If any questions, am all ears for ya out there Mohamed
  24. Hello all, I have greenhouse which have currently 58 GB's, and would like to add to it 40 GB's more, however, i don't want to spend that much on plumping and all that. Therefore, since I am having four lines of GB's, I want to make siphon for each two lines of GB's, meaning at the end I'l' be having only two siphon if all that worked out though. The Q. here is, is that possible? If yes how? if not, why not? Here is what i have at the moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2cW2ew7J7U&t=803s TIA all
  25. Hi all Just read this BBC "news article" and had a good laugh , odd how such ordinary or common habit around here, makes the news out there http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20190103-the-norwegian-art-of-the-packed-lunch?fbclid=IwAR0vE9N8OUUgAaO9uDPruPRXBU1zjfB4pR7cc_2p_KS78Y50zn7fyx_iSsI Pretty accurate article, however it is most common to also have a fruit or two, in our packed lunch. Many (in particular kids) would rather drink a glass of milk/juice, and/or have hot chocolate milk or hot Blackcurrant toddy(non alcoholic) on their thermos. cheers
  26. Hi markor58 I'w been looking thru all of these 16 videos made by beekeeper Frederick Dunn, seems to me that the flow hives are working perfectly well. I found all the videos worth watching enjoy cheers
  27. Hi Bagyaarun Welcome to APN/HQ There is a number of indoor/garage systems amongst the members here, this might be an inspiration ? http://www.aquaponics.com/wp-content/uploads/articles/Ten-Thoughts-on-system-Design.pdf cheers
  28. Happy New Year to you guys too!
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